yeah, but Ronnie hasn’t expressed a desire for a “relationship” she just wanted to see if sex with a woman was good (and I imagine not triggering). I think this is nice as it shows how (potentially) feelings grew out of what started out as a casual sex thing.
The question wasn’t “how could Ronnie not love Kelly” so much as “who would not love Kelly?”. I think the response is legit, and Ronnie doesn’t necessarily ft the answer as far as we know.
If we’re going down that road… an aromantic person, someone who Iisn’t into women, etc, etc. But I get what the original commenter meant and yep, she does seem very nice.
That implies that all love is romantic love. I love a lot of people, but I wouldn’t date a single one of them. Doesn’t mean I love them any less – just means I don’t love them romantically.
Fair point Aeron. I suppose I tend to associate the phrase ”falling in love” with romantic love specifically. I’m aromantic, and I absolutely agree that non-romantic love is in no way ”lesser” than romantic. I suppose ”in love” can be meant in a nonromantic sense too.
I still feel weird about ronnie asumeing what kelly will do rathr than informing kelly that at some point she might need to gtfo. Kelly is being real awsome comunicating and looking for active concent but if ronnie doesn’t tell her hay I’m trying to figure out if I like sex with woman or not it could be pretty weird for kelly.
This is just speculation, but going by the dialogue I would guess that they /have/ had a discussion of this sort. ”How do you feel about XYZ” sounds to me like a response to ”hey I’m inexperienced but I’d like to try some stuff.” That’s just my interpretation though. And again, they’re not in a relationship at this point so it’s a bit far-fetched to expect commitment. I don’t think you’re being judgemental or hateful, but I’m not sure the point you’re making is taking their relationship dynamics into account.
I’m sorry but it is not okay to asume that since your partner is expirenced with sex and haveing other sexual partners they will not have a problem breaking up. I can imagine a group of poliamores people even haveing multipal loveing partnersgrieveing over the loss of a partner. Anwar asume this of cris too it’s very upsetting.
Nope I’m not speaking from personal experiance (I don’t have any). I’m estemateing reaction from my experiance with other humans, biast as it may be,. That’s why I used asumed and imagine. Asume because if ronnie ask and is confermed that kelly will not mind then her behavior is exceptable and imagine because since I haven’t been in a relationship or spoken to someone in such a relationship I cannot speak from first hand or second hand knowladge.
Or maybe Ronnie meant it in an ‘If I say no or ‘stop’, she will stop’ way. If she tells Kelly to back off, they aren’t fucking, then Kelly didn’t/doesn’t seem the sort to go all guilt-trippy. It’s not okay to assume that your partners have never had their wishes ignored. Having a partner lke Kelly, who asks and is considerate and direct in her communication, is important.
I think the fact the kelly respects consent is pretty well estableshed since she is asking ronnie what she would like to try before trying it. This seems to be more about not being responsable for the feeling she may hurt because she asumes that kelly won’t mind.
First they aren’t in a relationship, there is no promise of commitment. Second, not being hurt and being understanding are two very different things. I think you would be hard pressed to find Lw/oBers* who wouldn’t understand someone needing to back out for honest reasons.
That’s not why Anwar or Veronica have assumed their partners wouldn’t have much of a problem breaking up. It’s more because the entire tone of their as-yet brief relationships has been pretty casual.
Anwar and cris seem to have negociated the terms of there relationship pretty clearly. What wasn’t negociated was the posability of failure. More importanly Anwar believes that since Cris has a sexual partner if he backs out Cris won’t be hurt. ” I guess if it doesn’t work we can just break up and it will be fine,right?”- Anwar pg 84 SoA I think anwar is unable to see that cris is emotionally invested and putting alot on this relationship working, considering the recent devorce. Not to say anwar is doing this for selfish reason. he does it because he has low self esteem. what can he provide in a romantic relationship , if not sex?
Yeah I think the assumption was that they’re not in a committed relationship yet (and I’m basing the ‘yet’ on the fact that they are now in a relationship according to the previous page, not because I think casual sex always has to lead to a relationship. )
Ummmm… Kelly is VERY CLEARLY someone who enjoys casual sex. (We know this from how she is in the original Khaos storylines). If Ronnie knows enough about Kelly to know she has a specific enjoyment from having sex with first-timers, it’s clear she also has heard that Kelly tends to have lots of sexual but not highly committed relationships.
HA!
I was just sitting here thinking how hawt Ronnie looks and then I realised she looks a lot like me. I mean… right down to the hair. o.O A few years ago I was totally about coloured braids.
I guess I’m more of a narcissist than I thought. ^_^
Haha, this feels familiar to me.
When I was in high school and I wasn’t yet out as FtM, I used to always get attracted to the same kind of guys; long-haired ones with glasses. It’s only later I realized that, if I had been born a bio male, I’d look exactly like the guys I fell for!
And incidentally, I now do!
I love how Kelly is being so straight forward with her questions. Questions like that are the best thing about a considerate partner! Well, y’know, besides the fact they’re considerate. Yay for communication and asking about sex things!
I love this beginning of their relationship! It was primarily about having fun! but it clearly developed into something more! yay for all sorts of relationships!
Good page, liking the flashback to their meeting and now curious as well as worried about what happened to Ronnie to make her think she is “broken”.
Congrats to Ronnie on sizeable forearms, like wow.
Also Kelly looks so like Murphs in that last frame, perhaps it’s just the innocent smile combined with naughty things.
Yeah, I saw the family resemblance there too. Apparently they all like toys :)
This page brought a smile to my face :D especially the last panel. I have a feeling I’ve actually asked a guy that before…
Kelly looks so cute, fun and giving! Who wouldn’t fall in love with someone like that. :D
someone who prefers a closed relationship.
yeah, but Ronnie hasn’t expressed a desire for a “relationship” she just wanted to see if sex with a woman was good (and I imagine not triggering). I think this is nice as it shows how (potentially) feelings grew out of what started out as a casual sex thing.
The question wasn’t “how could Ronnie not love Kelly” so much as “who would not love Kelly?”. I think the response is legit, and Ronnie doesn’t necessarily ft the answer as far as we know.
If we’re going down that road… an aromantic person, someone who Iisn’t into women, etc, etc. But I get what the original commenter meant and yep, she does seem very nice.
That implies that all love is romantic love. I love a lot of people, but I wouldn’t date a single one of them. Doesn’t mean I love them any less – just means I don’t love them romantically.
Fair point Aeron. I suppose I tend to associate the phrase ”falling in love” with romantic love specifically. I’m aromantic, and I absolutely agree that non-romantic love is in no way ”lesser” than romantic. I suppose ”in love” can be meant in a nonromantic sense too.
i’d still love kelly, even though i’m aromantic! doesn’t mean i want to be her girlfriend. :P
I still feel weird about ronnie asumeing what kelly will do rathr than informing kelly that at some point she might need to gtfo. Kelly is being real awsome comunicating and looking for active concent but if ronnie doesn’t tell her hay I’m trying to figure out if I like sex with woman or not it could be pretty weird for kelly.
rong cpmment this a reply to my coment just bellow.
You’re not giving Kelly enough credit here, nor are you being fair to Ronnie. Stop hating and judging?
Who am i judgeing , I don’t think I’m feeling hatred.
This is just speculation, but going by the dialogue I would guess that they /have/ had a discussion of this sort. ”How do you feel about XYZ” sounds to me like a response to ”hey I’m inexperienced but I’d like to try some stuff.” That’s just my interpretation though. And again, they’re not in a relationship at this point so it’s a bit far-fetched to expect commitment. I don’t think you’re being judgemental or hateful, but I’m not sure the point you’re making is taking their relationship dynamics into account.
I’m sorry but it is not okay to asume that since your partner is expirenced with sex and haveing other sexual partners they will not have a problem breaking up. I can imagine a group of poliamores people even haveing multipal loveing partnersgrieveing over the loss of a partner. Anwar asume this of cris too it’s very upsetting.
Are you speaking from personal experience? Because you can’t speak for everyone.
Nope I’m not speaking from personal experiance (I don’t have any). I’m estemateing reaction from my experiance with other humans, biast as it may be,. That’s why I used asumed and imagine. Asume because if ronnie ask and is confermed that kelly will not mind then her behavior is exceptable and imagine because since I haven’t been in a relationship or spoken to someone in such a relationship I cannot speak from first hand or second hand knowladge.
Or maybe Ronnie meant it in an ‘If I say no or ‘stop’, she will stop’ way. If she tells Kelly to back off, they aren’t fucking, then Kelly didn’t/doesn’t seem the sort to go all guilt-trippy. It’s not okay to assume that your partners have never had their wishes ignored. Having a partner lke Kelly, who asks and is considerate and direct in her communication, is important.
I think the fact the kelly respects consent is pretty well estableshed since she is asking ronnie what she would like to try before trying it. This seems to be more about not being responsable for the feeling she may hurt because she asumes that kelly won’t mind.
First they aren’t in a relationship, there is no promise of commitment. Second, not being hurt and being understanding are two very different things. I think you would be hard pressed to find Lw/oBers* who wouldn’t understand someone needing to back out for honest reasons.
*Love without Boundaries
That’s not why Anwar or Veronica have assumed their partners wouldn’t have much of a problem breaking up. It’s more because the entire tone of their as-yet brief relationships has been pretty casual.
Anwar and cris seem to have negociated the terms of there relationship pretty clearly. What wasn’t negociated was the posability of failure. More importanly Anwar believes that since Cris has a sexual partner if he backs out Cris won’t be hurt. ” I guess if it doesn’t work we can just break up and it will be fine,right?”- Anwar pg 84 SoA I think anwar is unable to see that cris is emotionally invested and putting alot on this relationship working, considering the recent devorce. Not to say anwar is doing this for selfish reason. he does it because he has low self esteem. what can he provide in a romantic relationship , if not sex?
I read it as Ronnie knowing Kelly would be quick to break up because she’s Kelly, not because she’s experienced.
Yeah I think the assumption was that they’re not in a committed relationship yet (and I’m basing the ‘yet’ on the fact that they are now in a relationship according to the previous page, not because I think casual sex always has to lead to a relationship. )
*the assumption was based on the fact that
Why is kelly safe? Why does ronnie ‘figure’ kelly will find soneone else?
Ummmm… Kelly is VERY CLEARLY someone who enjoys casual sex. (We know this from how she is in the original Khaos storylines). If Ronnie knows enough about Kelly to know she has a specific enjoyment from having sex with first-timers, it’s clear she also has heard that Kelly tends to have lots of sexual but not highly committed relationships.
I love how Kelly is so considerate of how her partner is doing. <3
I want kelly as a rival, I could totally see her dating some of the same people I do.
Kelly’s face in the last panel! I actually laughed :D
She just looks so enthusiastically pleased and then the fact that she’s holding a large purple vrrrrer just makes it perfect.
HA!
I was just sitting here thinking how hawt Ronnie looks and then I realised she looks a lot like me. I mean… right down to the hair. o.O A few years ago I was totally about coloured braids.
I guess I’m more of a narcissist than I thought. ^_^
Haha, this feels familiar to me.
When I was in high school and I wasn’t yet out as FtM, I used to always get attracted to the same kind of guys; long-haired ones with glasses. It’s only later I realized that, if I had been born a bio male, I’d look exactly like the guys I fell for!
And incidentally, I now do!
I’m sure there are actual studies about this type of thing. Some guy in Europe did research on who and how people are attracted to others.
Opposites can attract (since I’ve ended up with a tiny, skinny white guy, I’d say I agree with that) but similarities attract just as much.
I love how Kelly is being so straight forward with her questions. Questions like that are the best thing about a considerate partner! Well, y’know, besides the fact they’re considerate. Yay for communication and asking about sex things!
Active consent and communication makes everything awesome.
She’s so adorable-y Murphs-y! She’s perfect!
I love this beginning of their relationship! It was primarily about having fun! but it clearly developed into something more! yay for all sorts of relationships!
Ronnie’s a really attractive lady, and they’re cute together.
Oh god. Kelly EXACTLY like my ex who’s name is also Kelly…