Kay so I’m feeling for Kelly heavy right now. I’m right now in a committed engagement with my boyfriend and I can’t even begin to list the amount of times I’ve tried to explain to him that I have urges to be with other people (sexually) but still love him only and want to marry him only. People like Kelly and me DO exist and it’s a huge emotional weight when you finally find someone you genuinely love but still want to explore sexually with others. It’s not about whether the person you love is enough for you sexually, it’s more about sexual exploration. It becomes even more emotionally stressful when the person you love keeps trying to change that aspect of you as if it’s easy; it’s not.
There’s a site out there called MoreThanTwo(dot)com. i really suggest visiting it. has some good resources for people that just aren’t wired monogamous like us. :)
I’m sorry that your boyfriend doesn’t accept this part of you. I’m also in a committed engagement and going to be married to someone very soon. He is very very supportive of the fact that I still love him, very much but I also like to look at other people and sometimes I can fall for them too. He thinks this a wonderful part of me and is actually exploring that side of himself as well. I hope that you and your SO can come to a peaceful agreement about this part of you!
Yeah some people just aren’t wired for monogamy. And they’re pushing back against a society that says there’s only one way to be in a relationship and anyone who doesn’t conform to that is a failure or doesn’t love the other person enough. That can’t be fun :-/
If it helps at all, most biologists and anthropologists believe that humans aren’t naturally wired for monogamy. It’s purely a social construct. We’re wired for more like flexible community polyamory, where sex is kind of about reproduction but more about building strong social/affection bonds. And as far as the theory that people pair off to raise kids, anthropological/archaeological evidence would suggest that humans are meant to have one primary parenting partner, but also a satellite group of other close parenting partners and an extended group of trusted non-partner parenting helpers. It’s, you know “it takes a village” but applied to sex too.
I consider myself demisexual. I had a boyfriend that I was really in love with and the relationship was committed and monogamous for a year and we were engaged. Then, suddenly he pulled Kelly’s lines. He hadn’t had sex in 3 years prior to our relationship, but he mentioned fooling around with a few women in those 3 years. Shouldn’t this be established in the beginning of a relationship so the partner who practices monogamy will have a choice whether they will be okay with that? Especially before emotions get involved? In my case, my city has high rates of STDs and irresponsible people, so monogamy= health for me as well. When he said that to me, it was like choosing between love or my health and I’ve seen too many horror stories of people who chose love. I’m not accusing anyone that’s commented of trickery or anything because I don’t know you nor am I saying that was the case with Ronnie or Kelly, but like all areas of sex, shouldn’t there be ethics involved or something? Has anyone told their partner before things got too serious of their desire to remain open (in any variation)? Is it bad that I wished that he had found someone who was “like him” (my brain isn’t coming up with the right words, I’m sorry) before he agreed to be in a relationship with me? Was I being selfish to assume that if he was in a monogamous relationship with me for a year that he didn’t need involvement on that level with anyone else? What do you do to reassure your partner that between anyone else in the world, you’re 100% there for them, even if you’re not…”there” for them sometimes? I’m sorry if this post sounds like a whining mess.
@thechef – yes, in ideal world one should know that their partner is poly/mono at the beginning of the relationship BUT people change and discover new things about themselves all the time. Sometimes we try one kind of relationship, believeing it’s the right one for us, and after a while we realise it’s not. Maybe that’s what happened with your bf – he wanted to be mono with you, but then decided it’s not right for him. Sometimes things like that can be negotiated, but sometimes the other person don’t want to agree with the change. AND THAT’S OK TOO. You’re not “selfish” or “bad person” for not wanting to be in an open relationship. You’re just you having feelings. It’s ok. Sometimes things just don’t work out and it’s noone’s fault, just different expectations from both parties.
Maya already said a lot of good things, but I want to add some stuff.
I think that communication is key here. Had your boyfriend not slept with other people yet, but talked to you about his needs and asked if you were okay with him sleeping with other people, then that would certainly have been more favourable than him talking about it afterwards. I would personally see it as a red flag that he didn’t get your permission first.
I don’t think I’m polyamorous/polygamous myself (I’m already not much of a social butterfly in the first place), but I do believe that polygamy/polyamoury can work as long as all parties involved are fine with it and are in a position where they can consent. Thing is, the more people there are, the more complicated things will get. I suggest you tell your boyfriend clearly what you want yourself and what you need to have a healthy relationship with him. Also, if he insists on needing more sexual partners and you can live with that, do talk to him about contraception, health, your concerns about STIs and discuss your limits on what you are comfortable with (e.g. you’re fine with him sleeping with other women, but not if it means he won’t spend much time with you).
Thank you Maya and Kaoru! Your advice helped me figure out how to approach the conversation with him about the topic, now I just need to sort through my own feelings some more. But this was great help for bringing me to reality.
This is why I enjoy the progression of society. Slowly we’re going from “HATE EVERYTHING DIFFERENT” to Tolerate things different to us. Heck soon we might be at the level of “Oh hey that’s pretty cool” *conversation doesn’t miss a beat*
Yep, although I think we still have some way to go, judging by some people’s opinions on poly relationships. I just wish some people would get it into their heads that just because they personally wouldn’t want to participate in something doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad or invalid or doesn’t work for anyone.
Last page I was like “awww /Ronnie/” and now I’m like “awwww /Kelly/”. This is a tough conversation to have, especially if the person you like isn’t poly themselves. 8( Poor bbys.
Art nitpick: One of the rows of seats seems to have disappeared between panels 1 and 4. It might be that Kelly moved forward a row, but what happened to the other person in panel 1?
Nope, the two rows we can see are the two rows between Kelly and Veronica. We don’t see the one Ronnie’s sitting on, since she’s looking up towards Kelly.
The other person isn’t visible. Since what we’re seeing is the two rows between Kelly and Ronnie, that person is cut out of the frame, since she’s too far away from Ronnie. I think! :)
I have/had something sort of like this going on in my life.
My boyfriend and I have been together for seven years now and during the long-distance portion of that relationship we both found lovers (or were encouraged to do so) as long as we both knew about it. It worked, to an extent, but I found that I actually ran into problems with the people I was trying to hook up with. As soon as they found out I had a boyfriend they flipped their lids; apparently I was a “cheating w****” and a “slutty b****” and a myriad of other things for “sleeping around” on my boyfriend. When I would tell them he was OK with it as long as he knew, some of them just got angrier. They assumed I was taking advantage of my boyfriend or that I was lying to them about his attitude towards it. It got kind of messy. I considered just not telling my potential partners about my romantic relationship, but I can’t lie about something like that when I’m asked directly and I was afraid if I didn’t share then that sexual partner might develop romantic feelings and I would have to hurt them emotionally in the end. I finally gave up, honestly, and waited for the summers to unload all my sexual frustration on my boyfriend. He wasn’t exactly complaining.
Now, living with my boyfriend, we still have a semi-open relationship. My boyfriend is not a very sexually active individual, while I feel like I’d explode if I didn’t do something at least once a week. There is one person besides my boyfriend I’m interested in having sexy time with, and he also lives with us. There are just a few rules in place, and it has been agreed that if my boyfriend were to find another lover he would also follow some rules. For me, it goes like this: 1, no traditional vaginal sex (and anal will wait until my boyfriend gets to do it first); that is my boyfriend’s territory. 2, if my lover ever finds himself a girlfriend I will leave him alone (difficult for me, as I am very physical with my close friends, but limits on that will be set after talking to the girlfriend). 3, if my boyfriend asks me to refrain from jumping my lover for a day or two, I will; sometimes he hits an emotional low and feels insecure, so during those times I stick with him and help him get through it.
I’m extremely thankful both my lover and my boyfriend are comfortable enough with themselves and me that they will agree to this arrangement. We do keep it quiet, as our mutual circle of friends probably wouldn’t react well, but some of my school friends are aware and think it’s awesome. It is sort of funny when my lover leaves a mark and my boyfriend’s old boss texts him to (jokingly) chew him out for leaving marks on me where they can’t hide under my shirt.
So, um… Long ramble aside, I can’t wait to see how these two handle this. Tab, I love your writing and your art; the story lines keep making me smile because they’re so relatable, even if what’s going on isn’t exactly like my situation.
I want like a good eighty pages more of these two. They’re awesome, the sex is hot, the relationship is complex and gripping. Sixteen pages is not enough pages. You make me want to write more lesbians into everything, seriously.
dat feeling…
I will never ever not love the Khaos universe!
…. SOOO CUTE.
God almighty, she and Murfs are just adorable personified.
“2 more pages to go” … NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kay so I’m feeling for Kelly heavy right now. I’m right now in a committed engagement with my boyfriend and I can’t even begin to list the amount of times I’ve tried to explain to him that I have urges to be with other people (sexually) but still love him only and want to marry him only. People like Kelly and me DO exist and it’s a huge emotional weight when you finally find someone you genuinely love but still want to explore sexually with others. It’s not about whether the person you love is enough for you sexually, it’s more about sexual exploration. It becomes even more emotionally stressful when the person you love keeps trying to change that aspect of you as if it’s easy; it’s not.
There’s a site out there called MoreThanTwo(dot)com. i really suggest visiting it. has some good resources for people that just aren’t wired monogamous like us. :)
I’m sorry that your boyfriend doesn’t accept this part of you. I’m also in a committed engagement and going to be married to someone very soon. He is very very supportive of the fact that I still love him, very much but I also like to look at other people and sometimes I can fall for them too. He thinks this a wonderful part of me and is actually exploring that side of himself as well. I hope that you and your SO can come to a peaceful agreement about this part of you!
Yeah some people just aren’t wired for monogamy. And they’re pushing back against a society that says there’s only one way to be in a relationship and anyone who doesn’t conform to that is a failure or doesn’t love the other person enough. That can’t be fun :-/
If it helps at all, most biologists and anthropologists believe that humans aren’t naturally wired for monogamy. It’s purely a social construct. We’re wired for more like flexible community polyamory, where sex is kind of about reproduction but more about building strong social/affection bonds. And as far as the theory that people pair off to raise kids, anthropological/archaeological evidence would suggest that humans are meant to have one primary parenting partner, but also a satellite group of other close parenting partners and an extended group of trusted non-partner parenting helpers. It’s, you know “it takes a village” but applied to sex too.
I consider myself demisexual. I had a boyfriend that I was really in love with and the relationship was committed and monogamous for a year and we were engaged. Then, suddenly he pulled Kelly’s lines. He hadn’t had sex in 3 years prior to our relationship, but he mentioned fooling around with a few women in those 3 years. Shouldn’t this be established in the beginning of a relationship so the partner who practices monogamy will have a choice whether they will be okay with that? Especially before emotions get involved? In my case, my city has high rates of STDs and irresponsible people, so monogamy= health for me as well. When he said that to me, it was like choosing between love or my health and I’ve seen too many horror stories of people who chose love. I’m not accusing anyone that’s commented of trickery or anything because I don’t know you nor am I saying that was the case with Ronnie or Kelly, but like all areas of sex, shouldn’t there be ethics involved or something? Has anyone told their partner before things got too serious of their desire to remain open (in any variation)? Is it bad that I wished that he had found someone who was “like him” (my brain isn’t coming up with the right words, I’m sorry) before he agreed to be in a relationship with me? Was I being selfish to assume that if he was in a monogamous relationship with me for a year that he didn’t need involvement on that level with anyone else? What do you do to reassure your partner that between anyone else in the world, you’re 100% there for them, even if you’re not…”there” for them sometimes? I’m sorry if this post sounds like a whining mess.
@thechef – yes, in ideal world one should know that their partner is poly/mono at the beginning of the relationship BUT people change and discover new things about themselves all the time. Sometimes we try one kind of relationship, believeing it’s the right one for us, and after a while we realise it’s not. Maybe that’s what happened with your bf – he wanted to be mono with you, but then decided it’s not right for him. Sometimes things like that can be negotiated, but sometimes the other person don’t want to agree with the change. AND THAT’S OK TOO. You’re not “selfish” or “bad person” for not wanting to be in an open relationship. You’re just you having feelings. It’s ok. Sometimes things just don’t work out and it’s noone’s fault, just different expectations from both parties.
That’s understandable and very true when you put it that way. Thank you.
Maya already said a lot of good things, but I want to add some stuff.
I think that communication is key here. Had your boyfriend not slept with other people yet, but talked to you about his needs and asked if you were okay with him sleeping with other people, then that would certainly have been more favourable than him talking about it afterwards. I would personally see it as a red flag that he didn’t get your permission first.
I don’t think I’m polyamorous/polygamous myself (I’m already not much of a social butterfly in the first place), but I do believe that polygamy/polyamoury can work as long as all parties involved are fine with it and are in a position where they can consent. Thing is, the more people there are, the more complicated things will get. I suggest you tell your boyfriend clearly what you want yourself and what you need to have a healthy relationship with him. Also, if he insists on needing more sexual partners and you can live with that, do talk to him about contraception, health, your concerns about STIs and discuss your limits on what you are comfortable with (e.g. you’re fine with him sleeping with other women, but not if it means he won’t spend much time with you).
Good luck, I hope you can resolve this soon!
Thank you Maya and Kaoru! Your advice helped me figure out how to approach the conversation with him about the topic, now I just need to sort through my own feelings some more. But this was great help for bringing me to reality.
This is why I enjoy the progression of society. Slowly we’re going from “HATE EVERYTHING DIFFERENT” to Tolerate things different to us. Heck soon we might be at the level of “Oh hey that’s pretty cool” *conversation doesn’t miss a beat*
Yep, although I think we still have some way to go, judging by some people’s opinions on poly relationships. I just wish some people would get it into their heads that just because they personally wouldn’t want to participate in something doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad or invalid or doesn’t work for anyone.
Last page I was like “awww /Ronnie/” and now I’m like “awwww /Kelly/”. This is a tough conversation to have, especially if the person you like isn’t poly themselves. 8( Poor bbys.
Art nitpick: One of the rows of seats seems to have disappeared between panels 1 and 4. It might be that Kelly moved forward a row, but what happened to the other person in panel 1?
(Also, is that a Stormtrooper in panel 4?)
Nope, the two rows we can see are the two rows between Kelly and Veronica. We don’t see the one Ronnie’s sitting on, since she’s looking up towards Kelly.
The other person isn’t visible. Since what we’re seeing is the two rows between Kelly and Ronnie, that person is cut out of the frame, since she’s too far away from Ronnie. I think! :)
That was a really precise throw.
I love this story, I wish it wasn’t coming to an end. We need a spin-off.
It’s already a spin off! XD
I have/had something sort of like this going on in my life.
My boyfriend and I have been together for seven years now and during the long-distance portion of that relationship we both found lovers (or were encouraged to do so) as long as we both knew about it. It worked, to an extent, but I found that I actually ran into problems with the people I was trying to hook up with. As soon as they found out I had a boyfriend they flipped their lids; apparently I was a “cheating w****” and a “slutty b****” and a myriad of other things for “sleeping around” on my boyfriend. When I would tell them he was OK with it as long as he knew, some of them just got angrier. They assumed I was taking advantage of my boyfriend or that I was lying to them about his attitude towards it. It got kind of messy. I considered just not telling my potential partners about my romantic relationship, but I can’t lie about something like that when I’m asked directly and I was afraid if I didn’t share then that sexual partner might develop romantic feelings and I would have to hurt them emotionally in the end. I finally gave up, honestly, and waited for the summers to unload all my sexual frustration on my boyfriend. He wasn’t exactly complaining.
Now, living with my boyfriend, we still have a semi-open relationship. My boyfriend is not a very sexually active individual, while I feel like I’d explode if I didn’t do something at least once a week. There is one person besides my boyfriend I’m interested in having sexy time with, and he also lives with us. There are just a few rules in place, and it has been agreed that if my boyfriend were to find another lover he would also follow some rules. For me, it goes like this: 1, no traditional vaginal sex (and anal will wait until my boyfriend gets to do it first); that is my boyfriend’s territory. 2, if my lover ever finds himself a girlfriend I will leave him alone (difficult for me, as I am very physical with my close friends, but limits on that will be set after talking to the girlfriend). 3, if my boyfriend asks me to refrain from jumping my lover for a day or two, I will; sometimes he hits an emotional low and feels insecure, so during those times I stick with him and help him get through it.
I’m extremely thankful both my lover and my boyfriend are comfortable enough with themselves and me that they will agree to this arrangement. We do keep it quiet, as our mutual circle of friends probably wouldn’t react well, but some of my school friends are aware and think it’s awesome. It is sort of funny when my lover leaves a mark and my boyfriend’s old boss texts him to (jokingly) chew him out for leaving marks on me where they can’t hide under my shirt.
So, um… Long ramble aside, I can’t wait to see how these two handle this. Tab, I love your writing and your art; the story lines keep making me smile because they’re so relatable, even if what’s going on isn’t exactly like my situation.
Holy fucking adorable batman. Seriously. I don’t normally comment bro but this hit me right in the feels. HUUUUPPPP.
Aw, Kelly :(. Nice to see you have layers though :).
I want like a good eighty pages more of these two. They’re awesome, the sex is hot, the relationship is complex and gripping. Sixteen pages is not enough pages. You make me want to write more lesbians into everything, seriously.
You say that like it’s a bad thing : D
Do it. Write more lesbians. Write gripping, complex, hot, flawed, endearing lesbians. And then link us all to them. <3
I don’t know what exactly it was about that last panel, but it literally brought tears to my eyes.