I love the fact that in this relationship, JD and Anwar can go from confused and worried about the future to goofing off and laughing. Even though the romantic relationship didn’t work out between the two, I’m glad they’ll continue to be friends.
reminds me of a break up i had. one minute we were chilling, then we were trying to be the one to dump the other first (i won :P ) then we were back to winding eachother up, hijcaking youtube and just having fun. good times
I am torn between loving the excellent resolution you have made for them and cursing your soul FOR PUTTING THAT GODDAMN SONG IN MY HEAD YOU BASTARD!!!!! D:<
Oh no! That will be in my head all day! >< But God, I love it. I loves it so much. Favorite page. None of this really analogues to anything from 50 shades though….I mean, did Kate and Ana ever have a….conversation like this? Or rather Ana and….that would be romantic rival?
You’re right that this conversation doesn’t happen- I’ve taken a couple of the main plot points but I reserve the right to add in and take away anything I wish. (P.S. I’m a dude. Not particularly relevant but worth noting when you talk about me.)
No ones gunna talk about how JD did a really horrible and shitty thing and they’re gunna laugh it off like they accidentally ate War’s burger? MMMmmmm, bad vibes.
I, for one, AM okay with moving on from the fact that these two people are clearly young humans, and young humans are notorious for doing absolutely shitty things to each other… and sometimes making up by being silly. That’s a thing that happens in real life, and does not make one a terrible person.
And from a story perspective, do we really need to grind the story to a halt every time someone does something bad, so they can hash out all the issues involved, and ultimately be fully and 100% at peace with each other? Where would the story go, then? Where would the dramatic tension be? You can’t build a story around interpersonal relationships (which Tab definitely has) without people, you know, being little shits to each other sometimes. Perhaps not on purpose, perhaps wholly accidentally, but still. That needs to happen, or you have no plot.
Apparently not. It’s super good characterization when people do shitty things to each other and never actually follow through for character growth and we’re supposed to still like and follow them. Because apparently that’s how “real” people act, even though anyone who actually acted like that to me or my friends would be so quickly out of my friend circle, they wouldn’t have even known what hit them.
Errgh, I might just need to take a break from this comic for awhile.
They both fucked up, Anwar for walking into a space he knew would make him uncomfortable, JD for being vindictive. They also both owned up to their mistakes. I personally am a lot more forgiving if someone acknowledges that they did something shitty. JD wasn’t crowing or bragging about how they hurt Anwar, it was a sad admittance of “Yeah I was being a shitty person.” Even if they didn’t use those words. Anwar knows JD better then we do and if is accepting their admittance as an apology then I’m on board with it. Also I did have a conversation kind of like this as a teen with a friend I hadn’t spoken to for years. She came up and said “yeah I did shitty things when we were last friends” I said the same and we’ve been good friends since.
I agree. Authentic friendship includes forgiveness and acceptance of the other’s shortcomings. It looks like this relationship will end up stronger for having gone through this experience. Good on Tab!
I find this all so ironic because…
I just got out a multi-year relationship with someone who a year in started pulling back from sex more and more, and who ultimately told me they were asexual, and I felt ALLL sorts of feelings of shame and unwantedness and rejection. (And during this time that they were IDing as asexual they started a second, SEXUAL relationship with someone else, thus making me feel even more unlovable/unwantable/unfuckable because they could manage sexual desire for someone else but not me? and by the end they wouldn’t even cuddle or hug me?)
I’m also kinky, queer, fat, and trans/non binary. JD’s feelings when they said “I know I’m not the most attractive [person]” are ME TO A T. I feel SO unwantable, SO not attractive. Like if I were just one less of those things than maybe someone would want me, but I’m not, and I was in a multi-year relationship with someone who DIDN’T Want me but could Want other people and jeez (I’m fucking tearing up). SO I should be able to just have my feelings about JD and whatever.
So I think I’m extra pissed because I should be able to just be identifying with JD’s feeling of rejection, and be able to revel in the fact that a fat trans kinky person is hot and being found hot by someone(s) and having satisfying sex…
but instead I have to spend thread after thread with people blaming Anwar for tiny things.
Like y’all I KNOW what it’s like to have someone put in your face that you aren’t wanted by them, and Anwar isn’t doing that. I lived with my partner sleeping with other people in the same room and kissing other people while I was present while saying they were asexual and knowing that the touch of me repulsed them, like literal pull-away-from-my-platonic-hugs repulsed.
I feel like I have to defend Anwar/my ex-analogue from people who are determined to make him out to be a bad guy.
I really really REALLY want to hug you right now. Regardless of how you feel about yourself, you’re still beautiful and deserving of love. Yeah, sure, it may sound vapid and bullshit because I don’t know what you look like. But that doesn’t matter. You are an individual. You are you, and there will NEVER be another you EVER. And there is something so beautiful about that independent of media stereotypes and the “idea” of what beauty is. Fuck. That. Shit.
So, I’m going to long distance hug you. It’s a two way thing, so you have to do your part or it doesn’t work. Ready? Okay so you have to hold your arms out to the side, say “long distance hug!!” and wrap your arms around yourself and HUG! You have to really get into it too! I’m going to do it as well (we’ll look dorky together!!)! We may not hug at the same time, but just know that I was thinking of you while I was doing it, and I hope you’re thinking of me. <3
And I REALLY hope that doesn't come off as creepy… Because if it does that's totally not what I am going for.
I’m really really sorry that happened to you. Being or identifying as an asexual does not mean that one can’t be a giant douchebag and I’m terribly sorry you had to deal with that crap. I don’t know you, but as a fellow trans* fat kinky queer and as an asexual, I am sure you are beautiful and deserve only the most awesome of love.
I understand how you feel all too well. My situation wasn’t the same, but similar. I had a partner whom I dated for four years, we were engaged, I was planning on moving over to USA to live with them… then suddenly they wanted an open relationship but really, they using that as an excuse to pull away from me to pursue somebody else.
I did admit to them that I’m asexual but that didn’t mean I stopped romantically loving them. It was – still is a painful experience to remember but in a way, it was a wonderful blessing!
I learnt a lot about myself in the process. I know now I have to stand up for myself in relationships and let my voice be heard. I have to stop letting other people push me around for their own selfish gains.
But the most important lesson of all: It’s best for my well-being to find someone who will respect me and love me for who I am – not someone who is so disgusted and embarrassed by my mere existence that they try to force me to change who I am.
I originally identified as a feminine transguy – thanks to the blessing that allowed me to reevaluate myself, I now identify as androgynous trans* neutrois asexual (not sure about being kinky, still discovering myself in that aspect!) and couldn’t be happier!
I’m sorry about what you went through. It’s horrible that people have to be cowards instead of being upfront about their true feelings. It’s a betrayal of trust, I believe. It’s been a year since I’ve gotten out of that messy relationship but I can tell you, it does get better.
If it’s okay, I’d love to give you a long-distance hug. I don’t know you, but I can honestly say I think you’re beautiful, and that no one should ever be made to feel like what you’ve had to endure. That your ex did that is utterly and completely despicable.
I’d quote Valerie’s letter from “V for Vendetta” to you, but that is pretty damn long, and most of it doesn’t apply directly to this situation, but the last part does. And it’s true. Please try to remember it. Because I believe it, and the sentiment it presents, more than anything.
I’m also kind of disgusted that someone would use Asexuality as an excuse to get out of a relationship. From what you’re saying, that was a move that is BEYOND low.
I agree with you, though, where Anwar is concerned. I was actually in his position a few years ago, and I stayed in the relationship for a long time after I realized I was Ace because I was terrified of my boyfriend feeling as you did. He was a wonderful, beautiful guy in my eyes, but not necessarily by society’s standards, and one of the things I didn’t want was for him to think that I’d broken up with him because I didn’t think he was handsome. It even came up in the break-up conversation, and I explained there was no one else in my life, and that I still thought he was wonderful, and I just didn’t want to tie him down to someone like me.
That was what pissed me off about everyone hating on Anwar. In some ways, it felt like they were hating on me, because our situations were so similar.
My partner and I broke up about a year ago, and we sing this song to each other ALL THE DAMN TIME. Glad to see Anwar and JD moving on- sometimes when you’re both being asses, you just need to move on.
Is it bad that I totally forgot about the Taylor Swift version at first? I found a cover on youtube by HANSON ((Yup, the Mmmbop ones)) that I actually kind of adore. ^.^
GETTING BAAAACK TOGETHER!
I had to use the first post to finish it off or it would have bugged me! :P
Like, ever.
Wait, is this that Taylor Swift song?
I love the fact that in this relationship, JD and Anwar can go from confused and worried about the future to goofing off and laughing. Even though the romantic relationship didn’t work out between the two, I’m glad they’ll continue to be friends.
reminds me of a break up i had. one minute we were chilling, then we were trying to be the one to dump the other first (i won :P ) then we were back to winding eachother up, hijcaking youtube and just having fun. good times
This is the complete opposite of the way I thought this was going to go, and I LOVE it! XD
ALL OF THE YESSES XD
GENIUS!
Listen to this cover instead. You can thank me later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSt2uWByaxI
That was amazing.
*stops holding breath*
Pheew.
I am torn between loving the excellent resolution you have made for them and cursing your soul FOR PUTTING THAT GODDAMN SONG IN MY HEAD YOU BASTARD!!!!! D:<
Ditto.
And the day is saved, thanks to Taylor Swift!
gdi why can’t my breakups be like that? ;;
EEEEEEEEE! *kicks my my feet and claps my hands with GLEE*
Oh no! That will be in my head all day! >< But God, I love it. I loves it so much. Favorite page. None of this really analogues to anything from 50 shades though….I mean, did Kate and Ana ever have a….conversation like this? Or rather Ana and….that would be romantic rival?
If she tried to match everything to 50 shades this would end up being a shitty story too, it’s that poisonous.
You’re right that this conversation doesn’t happen- I’ve taken a couple of the main plot points but I reserve the right to add in and take away anything I wish. (P.S. I’m a dude. Not particularly relevant but worth noting when you talk about me.)
Oh Tab you utter troll.
Ha! Lols! ^_^
No ones gunna talk about how JD did a really horrible and shitty thing and they’re gunna laugh it off like they accidentally ate War’s burger? MMMmmmm, bad vibes.
I, for one, AM okay with moving on from the fact that these two people are clearly young humans, and young humans are notorious for doing absolutely shitty things to each other… and sometimes making up by being silly. That’s a thing that happens in real life, and does not make one a terrible person.
And from a story perspective, do we really need to grind the story to a halt every time someone does something bad, so they can hash out all the issues involved, and ultimately be fully and 100% at peace with each other? Where would the story go, then? Where would the dramatic tension be? You can’t build a story around interpersonal relationships (which Tab definitely has) without people, you know, being little shits to each other sometimes. Perhaps not on purpose, perhaps wholly accidentally, but still. That needs to happen, or you have no plot.
Apparently not. It’s super good characterization when people do shitty things to each other and never actually follow through for character growth and we’re supposed to still like and follow them. Because apparently that’s how “real” people act, even though anyone who actually acted like that to me or my friends would be so quickly out of my friend circle, they wouldn’t have even known what hit them.
Errgh, I might just need to take a break from this comic for awhile.
They both fucked up, Anwar for walking into a space he knew would make him uncomfortable, JD for being vindictive. They also both owned up to their mistakes. I personally am a lot more forgiving if someone acknowledges that they did something shitty. JD wasn’t crowing or bragging about how they hurt Anwar, it was a sad admittance of “Yeah I was being a shitty person.” Even if they didn’t use those words. Anwar knows JD better then we do and if is accepting their admittance as an apology then I’m on board with it. Also I did have a conversation kind of like this as a teen with a friend I hadn’t spoken to for years. She came up and said “yeah I did shitty things when we were last friends” I said the same and we’ve been good friends since.
I agree. Authentic friendship includes forgiveness and acceptance of the other’s shortcomings. It looks like this relationship will end up stronger for having gone through this experience. Good on Tab!
So I don’t know that song….and was SOOOOO confused by this page until I scrolled down.
I find this all so ironic because…
I just got out a multi-year relationship with someone who a year in started pulling back from sex more and more, and who ultimately told me they were asexual, and I felt ALLL sorts of feelings of shame and unwantedness and rejection. (And during this time that they were IDing as asexual they started a second, SEXUAL relationship with someone else, thus making me feel even more unlovable/unwantable/unfuckable because they could manage sexual desire for someone else but not me? and by the end they wouldn’t even cuddle or hug me?)
I’m also kinky, queer, fat, and trans/non binary. JD’s feelings when they said “I know I’m not the most attractive [person]” are ME TO A T. I feel SO unwantable, SO not attractive. Like if I were just one less of those things than maybe someone would want me, but I’m not, and I was in a multi-year relationship with someone who DIDN’T Want me but could Want other people and jeez (I’m fucking tearing up). SO I should be able to just have my feelings about JD and whatever.
So I think I’m extra pissed because I should be able to just be identifying with JD’s feeling of rejection, and be able to revel in the fact that a fat trans kinky person is hot and being found hot by someone(s) and having satisfying sex…
but instead I have to spend thread after thread with people blaming Anwar for tiny things.
Like y’all I KNOW what it’s like to have someone put in your face that you aren’t wanted by them, and Anwar isn’t doing that. I lived with my partner sleeping with other people in the same room and kissing other people while I was present while saying they were asexual and knowing that the touch of me repulsed them, like literal pull-away-from-my-platonic-hugs repulsed.
I feel like I have to defend Anwar/my ex-analogue from people who are determined to make him out to be a bad guy.
I really really REALLY want to hug you right now. Regardless of how you feel about yourself, you’re still beautiful and deserving of love. Yeah, sure, it may sound vapid and bullshit because I don’t know what you look like. But that doesn’t matter. You are an individual. You are you, and there will NEVER be another you EVER. And there is something so beautiful about that independent of media stereotypes and the “idea” of what beauty is. Fuck. That. Shit.
So, I’m going to long distance hug you. It’s a two way thing, so you have to do your part or it doesn’t work. Ready? Okay so you have to hold your arms out to the side, say “long distance hug!!” and wrap your arms around yourself and HUG! You have to really get into it too! I’m going to do it as well (we’ll look dorky together!!)! We may not hug at the same time, but just know that I was thinking of you while I was doing it, and I hope you’re thinking of me. <3
And I REALLY hope that doesn't come off as creepy… Because if it does that's totally not what I am going for.
I’m really really sorry that happened to you. Being or identifying as an asexual does not mean that one can’t be a giant douchebag and I’m terribly sorry you had to deal with that crap. I don’t know you, but as a fellow trans* fat kinky queer and as an asexual, I am sure you are beautiful and deserve only the most awesome of love.
*Appropriate safe gesture of physical support*
I understand how you feel all too well. My situation wasn’t the same, but similar. I had a partner whom I dated for four years, we were engaged, I was planning on moving over to USA to live with them… then suddenly they wanted an open relationship but really, they using that as an excuse to pull away from me to pursue somebody else.
I did admit to them that I’m asexual but that didn’t mean I stopped romantically loving them. It was – still is a painful experience to remember but in a way, it was a wonderful blessing!
I learnt a lot about myself in the process. I know now I have to stand up for myself in relationships and let my voice be heard. I have to stop letting other people push me around for their own selfish gains.
But the most important lesson of all: It’s best for my well-being to find someone who will respect me and love me for who I am – not someone who is so disgusted and embarrassed by my mere existence that they try to force me to change who I am.
I originally identified as a feminine transguy – thanks to the blessing that allowed me to reevaluate myself, I now identify as androgynous trans* neutrois asexual (not sure about being kinky, still discovering myself in that aspect!) and couldn’t be happier!
I’m sorry about what you went through. It’s horrible that people have to be cowards instead of being upfront about their true feelings. It’s a betrayal of trust, I believe. It’s been a year since I’ve gotten out of that messy relationship but I can tell you, it does get better.
If it’s okay, I’d love to give you a long-distance hug. I don’t know you, but I can honestly say I think you’re beautiful, and that no one should ever be made to feel like what you’ve had to endure. That your ex did that is utterly and completely despicable.
I’d quote Valerie’s letter from “V for Vendetta” to you, but that is pretty damn long, and most of it doesn’t apply directly to this situation, but the last part does. And it’s true. Please try to remember it. Because I believe it, and the sentiment it presents, more than anything.
I’m also kind of disgusted that someone would use Asexuality as an excuse to get out of a relationship. From what you’re saying, that was a move that is BEYOND low.
I agree with you, though, where Anwar is concerned. I was actually in his position a few years ago, and I stayed in the relationship for a long time after I realized I was Ace because I was terrified of my boyfriend feeling as you did. He was a wonderful, beautiful guy in my eyes, but not necessarily by society’s standards, and one of the things I didn’t want was for him to think that I’d broken up with him because I didn’t think he was handsome. It even came up in the break-up conversation, and I explained there was no one else in my life, and that I still thought he was wonderful, and I just didn’t want to tie him down to someone like me.
That was what pissed me off about everyone hating on Anwar. In some ways, it felt like they were hating on me, because our situations were so similar.
Wait, just watched the video.
Daaaamn.
That is catchy. -_- No sleep for me tonight.
Thanks, Tab.
;-)
Dagnammit Tab I just got rid of an earworm I didn’t need another.
I’m actually really happy this turned out goofy. It goes to show that they were meant as one another’s best friend. Platonic soulmates, of sorts.
My partner and I broke up about a year ago, and we sing this song to each other ALL THE DAMN TIME. Glad to see Anwar and JD moving on- sometimes when you’re both being asses, you just need to move on.
I mean, like, NEVER. With dancing bears.
‘War’s face in the first panel, in context, is a masterpiece of visual literature. Well done, Tab.
Is it bad that I totally forgot about the Taylor Swift version at first? I found a cover on youtube by HANSON ((Yup, the Mmmbop ones)) that I actually kind of adore. ^.^