Poor Anwar! Has he ever actually made love with someone? I hope he allows Chris to show him that it can be more than “tab a inserted into tab b”. I love these two together and I am hoping they get an happily ever after. :)
I donn’t think war can do makeing love since it invalves a lot of sex haveing. Anything that involves sexualized contact seems to go to neutral on him.
Argh… Poor confused Anwar. Sex is more than a quick thrusting action to get off. Chris is such a romantic, and I think that’ll be good for ‘War, so long as he trusts Chris to know more than him. Ugh…
Well. I guess that depends on how Anwar feels about kissing. If he likes it great, if not I don’t think they should do this. So I guess they’re experimenting.
Kissing isn’t necessarily more romantic or less sexual than fucking is. It depends on how the people doing it feel. I’m fine with the experimentation, but it doesn’t look like Anwar’s much more than bored.
I cringed…or maybe I seized. Not quite sure. I just know I had to punch myself in the face to avoid screaming. Cuz…uh, I turned 12 in early 1999 and I knew about foreplay before I turned 13 in 2000 thanks to “lime” and “lemon” fanfictions.
If this is his vision of sex, then I wonder what happens if he actually have sex with foreplay and luv-action… Maybe he’ll re-think his whole idea of sex. Maybe it confirms his idea of sex?
Meh. I’ve had sex, and find people “sexy”, but the idea of actually “doing it” turns me off. No desire for sexy times at all. I’d much rather curl up on a couch and watch a movie, play a video game/read a book with my SO.
I’ve gotta say, as much as I like the idea of Anwar getting a broader view of what sexuality can be, if he gets magically ‘cured’ of being asexual by lovey sex, I’m going to be furious, and probably puke.
I can see where bad/unfulfilling sexual experiences could lead one to believe that they don’t like sexual intimacy. Perhaps Anwar is actually demisexual and will realize it once he experiences sex with someone he has a truly romantic relationship with.
asexuality isn’t about not liking sexual intimacy, it’s about not experiencing sexual attraction (asexuals usually DON’T want sex, but it’s a result of lacking attraction, not the cause of it- like how you don’t really want sexual intimacy with the same sex if you’re heterosexual. it’s not because you’re fundamentally against or scared of gay sex, it’s because you’re just inherently not interested). a common misconception is that people can “become” asexual after a bad experience, but most asexuals have usually felt a lack of sexual attraction their whole life. also, it’s possible that anwar could make new discoveries about his sexuality, like that he’s demisexual, but it seems like he was pretty in love with jd- he would have likely discovered his demisexuality then, no matter how “truly romantic” his relationship with them was. and although sexual fluidity is definitely a thing, it doesn’t seem likely, the way this comic is going so far. anwar conveniently discovering he’s demisexual would STILL be trying to “fix” his lack of sexual attraction, and while it’s definitely fine to realize you’re not as ace as you thought, it doesn’t seem realistic at this point (simply because his attitude towards sex right now doesn’t seem to be driven by sexual attraction).
This. The whole discussion of making this a “fix your sexuality” comic was bothering me and you pulled the words outta my head on why that wasn’t going to happen.
I am not sure asexuality is so definitive for Anwar. In light of his profound immaturity and seemingly limited sexual experience, I could see him discovering his sexuality is a bit more fluid. Just as Chris seems to be drifting towards the middle of the Kinsey scale, I wouldn’t mind if the story evolved so that Anwar’s truth is not what he originally thought. I’m a die-hard romantic and Chris is totally adorable , so I am pulling for an HEA so bad for him.
i’m sorry, but i disagree. anwar doesn’t need any sexual experience to know he doesn’t feel attraction to any gender. just like a heterosexual male doesn’t need to have sex with another male “just in case” he’s really homosexual, neither does anwar need to have sex with someone “just in case” he’s really allosexual (someone who feels sexual attraction). of course, people’s sexual preferences CAN change, and it can be very interesting to explore that, but i think it’s not relevant to this comic. anwar seems pretty confident that he doesn’t feel sexual attraction, and nothing’s happened so far to provide evidence against that. (and i should probably add that there’s no “right” way to be asexual. so even if something DID happen that made him seem “less asexual,” as long as anwar self-identifies as asexual, that’s what i’ll consider him as.)
i personally take DEEP exception to assuming that a sexless relationship is less romantic than one without sex, or that anwar discovering he’s not asexual will somehow make their relationship a “happily ever after” (or more so than a relationship in which he’s still asexual). i’m sure that wasn’t what you meant to imply, but your wording could suggest that a romantic relationship with an asexual is inferior to one with another allosexual.
I did not state nor imply that their HEA would result from Anwar’s self discovery that he is not asexual. What I posted was that I want an HEA for Chris with Anwar, in that they fall in love and live the rest of their life together, into sunset riding, etc. Romantic fantasy fluff, I know, but I like it. Whether or not Anwar’s sexuality is fluid is separate from my hope for an HEA for them. No offense was intended to anyone, but I do have a right to my opinion on how I would like to see the story goes. However it develops, I have no doubt Tab will make it great.
sorry, my bad. :) i was pretty sure you didn’t mean it like that, but i wanted to get that point across anyway. i didn’t mean to offend you, either, i just wanted to give my perspective. :)
im asexual and i kinda like sexual intimacy. i’m just not really sexually attracted to people. soooooooooo. he can still be asexual even if he discovers he’s the kinkiest fucker in the universe. really doesn’t have anything to do w it, but i rly rly doubt tab would make a “fix yr sexuality” comic.
Maybe JD doesn’t just like to strip quickly, they like to get everything done quickly? We haven’t heard that ‘War has been with anyone else, after all.
Oh god, this is so awkward and uncomfortable, I’m literally squirming. I feel so sorry for Anwar, but at the same time I hope he gets his shit together, because he’s being horrible to Chris throughout this whole conversation.
I find it interesting that Chris continues to go along with this train wreck. Is it because he is a submissive? Or does he find himself sexually attracted to a man for the first? time? I am really curious about what is going on in Chris mind here.
Curious about where this is going. I can see why people would be annoyed if Anwar discovers he’s not ace, but he seems kind of damaged on a number of levels (psychologically) so that could impact how he perceives his sexuality (not that you have to be damaged to be an Ace–most are not). Plus being Ace or Hyper-sexual (or anything in between) is really not an “orientation” in the same realms of being gay, straight or bi. It is way more fluid. For example, hormones and life experiences can and do impact how much sex you desire (or not), but they don’t impact orientation. So maybe this is a simply story about two guys discovering who/what they are? Speaking as someone who was very confused about herself.
You seem to have misunderstood the definition of asexual, friend. It IS a sexual orientation in the same realm as gay, straight, and bi, denoting a persons sexual attraction. It is quite removed from libido or enjoyment of sex and simply means (in it’s basic definition, it is a convoluted spectrum) that a person does not experience sexual attraction to anyone, regardless. You are thinking of being non-libidoist when you oppose it to being hyper-sexual, and while there certainly exist plenty of asexuals without much or any libido asexuals exist on all points of that spectrum. An asexual person can experience arousal, enjoy masturbating, enjoy partnered sex, enjoy partnered sex for reasons unrelated to libido or arousal, have triggers for their arousal (e.g. pleasant sensations or thinking of getting off), not engage with that arousal at all, or any combination of the above and be no less asexual for it.
So even if Anwar were to realize that he actually really likes sex, in whatever way or for whatever reason, the fact that Chris, or JD, or any other person is not sexually attractive i.e. ‘sexy’ to him makes him very asexual indeed.
I like sexual touching that doesn’t involve genitals. But it took me forever to realize that that was a thing. Our culture doesn’t mention such a thing. How old is Anwar? Like 20? It seems plausible to me that he would have not realized that sex can be whatever you want it to be.
Since the comic is called Shades of A, (shades of asexuality? shades of Anwar?) it seems to me Chris and Anwar’s relationship is going to be about discovering different forms of asexuality. Like, Anwar discovering his view of sex is very limited and that there are different ways to have sex. I don’t think this has to make him not-asexual, just broaden his “shades of a” :D
Plus, I really liked that from the beginning of the comic the character knew he was asexual and was firm in that. It is refreshing to have an asexual character whose storyline wasn’t about him realizing he was asexual. :)
Heh. You have to remember that this comic is sending up “Shades of Grey” and the notion of being “cured” of asexuality is just the kind of idea that such a book might try to pass off as being possible.
Tab has been doing a beautiful job of sending that book up and I am just sitting here grinning at a few of the ideas that might come next…as well as the utterly wonderful way Tab makes awkward waft off the page and into the skin of the audience.
Poor Anwar! Has he ever actually made love with someone? I hope he allows Chris to show him that it can be more than “tab a inserted into tab b”. I love these two together and I am hoping they get an happily ever after. :)
oh gosh I thought you meant “Tab” not “tab” and thought you had made a really bad joke.
*snicker* Totally unintended pun!
Bwa me too. Brilliant ;)
I donn’t think war can do makeing love since it invalves a lot of sex haveing. Anything that involves sexualized contact seems to go to neutral on him.
Argh… Poor confused Anwar. Sex is more than a quick thrusting action to get off. Chris is such a romantic, and I think that’ll be good for ‘War, so long as he trusts Chris to know more than him. Ugh…
Well. I guess that depends on how Anwar feels about kissing. If he likes it great, if not I don’t think they should do this. So I guess they’re experimenting.
Kissing isn’t necessarily more romantic or less sexual than fucking is. It depends on how the people doing it feel. I’m fine with the experimentation, but it doesn’t look like Anwar’s much more than bored.
We’ve seen Anwar initiate kissing before with Chris, though. He seems to see it as a romantic expression.
That might be overly presumptive on my part, though.
This is like the sexy equivalent of fingernails down a blackboard. X_x
There can be no more accurate statement than that.
Urghs! I will hear that in my mind the whole day…
So very very true.
I hear that!
…no… I actually hear it. *winces*
Oh god. The sad thing is that there are so many many many people who have Anwar’s understanding of sex. So sad. I can’t even. Poor babybaby.
I cringed…or maybe I seized. Not quite sure. I just know I had to punch myself in the face to avoid screaming. Cuz…uh, I turned 12 in early 1999 and I knew about foreplay before I turned 13 in 2000 thanks to “lime” and “lemon” fanfictions.
If this is his vision of sex, then I wonder what happens if he actually have sex with foreplay and luv-action… Maybe he’ll re-think his whole idea of sex. Maybe it confirms his idea of sex?
Asexuality isn’t technically defined by your idea of sex, just whether or not you find someone sexy.
Speaking from experience, I’ve had and enjoyed sex, but I’m not attracted to anyone. This doesn’t make my (a)sexuality a viewpoint or an idea.
Meh. I’ve had sex, and find people “sexy”, but the idea of actually “doing it” turns me off. No desire for sexy times at all. I’d much rather curl up on a couch and watch a movie, play a video game/read a book with my SO.
I’ve gotta say, as much as I like the idea of Anwar getting a broader view of what sexuality can be, if he gets magically ‘cured’ of being asexual by lovey sex, I’m going to be furious, and probably puke.
I think we can trust Tab not to do that. I’ll be shocked if he does.
I can see where bad/unfulfilling sexual experiences could lead one to believe that they don’t like sexual intimacy. Perhaps Anwar is actually demisexual and will realize it once he experiences sex with someone he has a truly romantic relationship with.
asexuality isn’t about not liking sexual intimacy, it’s about not experiencing sexual attraction (asexuals usually DON’T want sex, but it’s a result of lacking attraction, not the cause of it- like how you don’t really want sexual intimacy with the same sex if you’re heterosexual. it’s not because you’re fundamentally against or scared of gay sex, it’s because you’re just inherently not interested). a common misconception is that people can “become” asexual after a bad experience, but most asexuals have usually felt a lack of sexual attraction their whole life. also, it’s possible that anwar could make new discoveries about his sexuality, like that he’s demisexual, but it seems like he was pretty in love with jd- he would have likely discovered his demisexuality then, no matter how “truly romantic” his relationship with them was. and although sexual fluidity is definitely a thing, it doesn’t seem likely, the way this comic is going so far. anwar conveniently discovering he’s demisexual would STILL be trying to “fix” his lack of sexual attraction, and while it’s definitely fine to realize you’re not as ace as you thought, it doesn’t seem realistic at this point (simply because his attitude towards sex right now doesn’t seem to be driven by sexual attraction).
This. The whole discussion of making this a “fix your sexuality” comic was bothering me and you pulled the words outta my head on why that wasn’t going to happen.
I am not sure asexuality is so definitive for Anwar. In light of his profound immaturity and seemingly limited sexual experience, I could see him discovering his sexuality is a bit more fluid. Just as Chris seems to be drifting towards the middle of the Kinsey scale, I wouldn’t mind if the story evolved so that Anwar’s truth is not what he originally thought. I’m a die-hard romantic and Chris is totally adorable , so I am pulling for an HEA so bad for him.
i’m sorry, but i disagree. anwar doesn’t need any sexual experience to know he doesn’t feel attraction to any gender. just like a heterosexual male doesn’t need to have sex with another male “just in case” he’s really homosexual, neither does anwar need to have sex with someone “just in case” he’s really allosexual (someone who feels sexual attraction). of course, people’s sexual preferences CAN change, and it can be very interesting to explore that, but i think it’s not relevant to this comic. anwar seems pretty confident that he doesn’t feel sexual attraction, and nothing’s happened so far to provide evidence against that. (and i should probably add that there’s no “right” way to be asexual. so even if something DID happen that made him seem “less asexual,” as long as anwar self-identifies as asexual, that’s what i’ll consider him as.)
i personally take DEEP exception to assuming that a sexless relationship is less romantic than one without sex, or that anwar discovering he’s not asexual will somehow make their relationship a “happily ever after” (or more so than a relationship in which he’s still asexual). i’m sure that wasn’t what you meant to imply, but your wording could suggest that a romantic relationship with an asexual is inferior to one with another allosexual.
I did not state nor imply that their HEA would result from Anwar’s self discovery that he is not asexual. What I posted was that I want an HEA for Chris with Anwar, in that they fall in love and live the rest of their life together, into sunset riding, etc. Romantic fantasy fluff, I know, but I like it. Whether or not Anwar’s sexuality is fluid is separate from my hope for an HEA for them. No offense was intended to anyone, but I do have a right to my opinion on how I would like to see the story goes. However it develops, I have no doubt Tab will make it great.
sorry, my bad. :) i was pretty sure you didn’t mean it like that, but i wanted to get that point across anyway. i didn’t mean to offend you, either, i just wanted to give my perspective. :)
im asexual and i kinda like sexual intimacy. i’m just not really sexually attracted to people. soooooooooo. he can still be asexual even if he discovers he’s the kinkiest fucker in the universe. really doesn’t have anything to do w it, but i rly rly doubt tab would make a “fix yr sexuality” comic.
Do you really see Tab doing that?
But Tab, what are these words you have to say?
adl;skjlksdjfa. The contact awkward. I can’t even.
…Has Anwar never heard of ‘foreplay’? HOW?! Welp, they have to stop NOW, because Anwar is such pure innocence that he must be preserved.
Maybe JD doesn’t just like to strip quickly, they like to get everything done quickly? We haven’t heard that ‘War has been with anyone else, after all.
goddamnit anwar -_-
Urg… This is so damn familiar…
M: “Why aren’t you just jumping on me and screwing my brains out?”
P: “Um… I think you should be aroused first?”
M: “…what?”
Yeah, very familiar… Not from an ace standpoint, to be sure, but damn I am loving how easy it is to relate to this comic.
Oh god, this is so awkward and uncomfortable, I’m literally squirming. I feel so sorry for Anwar, but at the same time I hope he gets his shit together, because he’s being horrible to Chris throughout this whole conversation.
I find it interesting that Chris continues to go along with this train wreck. Is it because he is a submissive? Or does he find himself sexually attracted to a man for the first? time? I am really curious about what is going on in Chris mind here.
Curious about where this is going. I can see why people would be annoyed if Anwar discovers he’s not ace, but he seems kind of damaged on a number of levels (psychologically) so that could impact how he perceives his sexuality (not that you have to be damaged to be an Ace–most are not). Plus being Ace or Hyper-sexual (or anything in between) is really not an “orientation” in the same realms of being gay, straight or bi. It is way more fluid. For example, hormones and life experiences can and do impact how much sex you desire (or not), but they don’t impact orientation. So maybe this is a simply story about two guys discovering who/what they are? Speaking as someone who was very confused about herself.
You seem to have misunderstood the definition of asexual, friend. It IS a sexual orientation in the same realm as gay, straight, and bi, denoting a persons sexual attraction. It is quite removed from libido or enjoyment of sex and simply means (in it’s basic definition, it is a convoluted spectrum) that a person does not experience sexual attraction to anyone, regardless. You are thinking of being non-libidoist when you oppose it to being hyper-sexual, and while there certainly exist plenty of asexuals without much or any libido asexuals exist on all points of that spectrum. An asexual person can experience arousal, enjoy masturbating, enjoy partnered sex, enjoy partnered sex for reasons unrelated to libido or arousal, have triggers for their arousal (e.g. pleasant sensations or thinking of getting off), not engage with that arousal at all, or any combination of the above and be no less asexual for it.
So even if Anwar were to realize that he actually really likes sex, in whatever way or for whatever reason, the fact that Chris, or JD, or any other person is not sexually attractive i.e. ‘sexy’ to him makes him very asexual indeed.
*camps until Monday*
I have GOT to see where this is going.
*sitting right next to you* I hate wishing for a weekend to go quickly, but I am on pins and needles to see the next panel!
I like sexual touching that doesn’t involve genitals. But it took me forever to realize that that was a thing. Our culture doesn’t mention such a thing. How old is Anwar? Like 20? It seems plausible to me that he would have not realized that sex can be whatever you want it to be.
Since the comic is called Shades of A, (shades of asexuality? shades of Anwar?) it seems to me Chris and Anwar’s relationship is going to be about discovering different forms of asexuality. Like, Anwar discovering his view of sex is very limited and that there are different ways to have sex. I don’t think this has to make him not-asexual, just broaden his “shades of a” :D
Plus, I really liked that from the beginning of the comic the character knew he was asexual and was firm in that. It is refreshing to have an asexual character whose storyline wasn’t about him realizing he was asexual. :)
“Shades of awkward”
Heh. You have to remember that this comic is sending up “Shades of Grey” and the notion of being “cured” of asexuality is just the kind of idea that such a book might try to pass off as being possible.
Tab has been doing a beautiful job of sending that book up and I am just sitting here grinning at a few of the ideas that might come next…as well as the utterly wonderful way Tab makes awkward waft off the page and into the skin of the audience.
*facepalm* Anwar….poor bby….
instead of buttsex we have some gentle butt smecks