Oh my goooood that sounds like the type of lie I’d tell except worse.
I’d say: “A BDSM dungeon. Someone else wanted me to go to be their safety buddy, that type of thing. I totally didn’t go for myself. Ahahahah. Nope.” (Cuz I’d go for myself.)
Pathetic American question: how much of a difference is there between a bar, a pub, and a club? Because depending on how different they are, he can use the one that’s the most true, but also the least offensive to his mum.
Totes feel your pain there, Anwar. My mum would *not* understand if I explained that I had been to a kink club.
From an Australian perspective – not too sure how well I can explain this since I’m unfamiliar with American culture, but I wanted to give it a shot!
A club – most commonly referred to as a nightclub – is… Well it’s a nightclub, loud music, flashing lights, usually otherwise in total darkness, bouncers at the door – you know, you go there to PARTAY. It’s where nasty sweaty people grind on you ><
A bar – like a refined version of a club, people usually go there to sit down, have a few drinks, listen to some more classy music – not necessarily classical mind you, just a nice establishment, this is usually where bands play when people actually LISTEN to music instead of it being a backdrop to gyrating your hips towards the nearest eligible female human. Typically frequented by young-middle aged people, or maybe some mature twentieseses.
A pub – liken a pub to the stereotypical "Moe's Tavern" type place – usually plays sports on the telly, people typically drink beer and have a parma. Frequented most commonly by men who have just finished work and wanted to stop somewhere and have a quick beer before they go home and watch part of the match or something.
I guess in this situation Anwar should… Probably… Stick to… His hardware store story… Because Muslims can't drink (or they're really not supposed to) and idk how well the Mumwar would react to ANY of those choices. She would probably expect Anwar to have met Chris in a dingy pub because Chris… Day-Chris kinda looks like he might go there often.
Club – nightclub, sweat, loud music, you go to get wrecked.
Bar – you go to drink, but not party like you would in a club. I’d imagine more wines and spirits drunk there, but that could just be me. Makes me think of pretzels.
Wet pub – you go to drink, but more for a “session”, beers, and ciders mostly. Less chance of music, and not the pop type.
Dry pub – some people drinking round the bar (the but you get served at, not the establishment) but most of the trade comes from food, so similar to a restaurant. You’d probably either go there to eat, or if it was your “local” pub, or both.
I know Muslims who definitely go to pubs, maybe even bars, but I don’t know how strict they are (strict enough not to drink) or what their families would say to it. I know at least one is open enough to let his family know he goes there. So might be acceptable, but might not, depends on the family.
Clubs are where you go to dance, ostensibly, and get drunk and lairy until 2.30am after which you can start a fight with a copper in the street (actual). Bars tend to be for a transitory drinker, one who is just popping in to kill time until they do something else. Its high traffic, less in the way of seating, and tend to have a lot of glass and chrome in their design. So a bit chilly in terms of mood. A pub is where you linger. Generally has a tv on with a variety of sports, plenty of seating, most these days will do food, emphasis on beers and ciders unlike the other two which focus more on spirits (and for bars, wine), general decor is oak (or fake-oak) and probably brassware or rustic decor even if they are in a city centre. Even flat-roofed sceme pubs will try for an oak and brass theme. You’ll see activities sign up sheets in pubs, darts, five-a-side, dominoes (in older people’s pubs) and pub quizes (general and league).
I was raised in the US and now living in the UK, and I’ve found that “club” means pretty much the exact same thing on both shores, whereas all of the pubs I’ve been to here fall under the umbrella of what an American would call a bar. I’m deferring to the other commenters on the distinction between what Brits call a “bar” and a “pub”, since as far as I can tell this city has dozens of pubs and no bars in sight :P.
Oh, and FWIW, I have plenty of friends who will go to the pub to hang out with friends even if they don’t plan to drink, and then just order food/soda/water. I get the impression that this would be *slightly* more unusual in a bar since bars are less likely to serve actual food, but that’s just a hunch.
Although that might lead to more questions about details. Still, I suppose he could just say it was someone’s birthday or something innocuous like that.
When I was Anwar’s age, I never thought my super conservative, very Xian mother would understand, but it turned out, she was just happy I found people who made me happy and were good to me. Not to say War’s mom would get it, but there’s always the chance that with all the other surprises, this one would be less of a shock were she to find out.
“Somewhere JD dragged me in” doesn’t sound to bad, or? Of course, anybody else would present his lover to his family with his more conventionally (and very lovely) traits first and try to let the other things gradually sicker in, but no. Normal is overrated.
Luckily Anwars mother is used to shocks, now!
“JD Has a friend, who has a friend, who’s boyfriend’s brother’s X had a private house somewhere in X…… AND THEN THERE WAS A PARTY! So, JD dragged me there because she (/THEY) thought I wasn’t living enough. And then there was Chris. Yeah.”
Actually, I typed that because I wasn’t sure if Anwar’s mom was aware that JD identafies as a “they” rather than a “she”, or if Anwar even told her about that.
If Anwar’s mom is anything like MINE, then she’d think it’s weird to call JD a they rather than a she, assuming she doesn’t know (and it also sounds wierd from the perspective second-language english speakers, so there’s that reason too). I’m sorry if I have offended you Alex.
I’ve had similar conversations with my own mother, not so much over where I met any of my sweeties, but over our weekend plans. (The “kinky camping” event, for instance, is best summed up as just camping.)
*snicker*
Ohh, I’ve been there! Mostly when discussing how my weekend was when my parents call.
“How was your weekend? Did you do anything fun?”
..Eeeeehm, yes. It involved being half naked (or completely naked) at a party with 100+ people, most of which I’ve never met or talked to. In a brothel. Where people can come for kink-night and watch each other play or make new friends.
My response is usually: “Ehh, nothing special..”
Not that my parents would make a big deal out of it (they’re awesome), but there’s things I rather keep to myself.
All he has to say is that they met through JD.
Its true.
Or, “We met at a party.” This is also true.
… hardware store. Yes, it was definitely the hardware store. Never saw him before he walked in to buy some tools. Nope.
COFFEE SHOP THREE BLOCKS OVER.
WE BOTH ORDERED THE SAME THING. It was love.
Lol what did you think it was? A BDSM dungeon or something? Lol.
Lol.
It wasn’t a BDSM dungeon. ༼ ಠل͟ಠ༽
Smooth. I know I wouldn’t suspect a thing if I were Anwar’s mom ;)
Oh my goooood that sounds like the type of lie I’d tell except worse.
I’d say: “A BDSM dungeon. Someone else wanted me to go to be their safety buddy, that type of thing. I totally didn’t go for myself. Ahahahah. Nope.” (Cuz I’d go for myself.)
Pathetic American question: how much of a difference is there between a bar, a pub, and a club? Because depending on how different they are, he can use the one that’s the most true, but also the least offensive to his mum.
Totes feel your pain there, Anwar. My mum would *not* understand if I explained that I had been to a kink club.
From an Australian perspective – not too sure how well I can explain this since I’m unfamiliar with American culture, but I wanted to give it a shot!
A club – most commonly referred to as a nightclub – is… Well it’s a nightclub, loud music, flashing lights, usually otherwise in total darkness, bouncers at the door – you know, you go there to PARTAY. It’s where nasty sweaty people grind on you ><
A bar – like a refined version of a club, people usually go there to sit down, have a few drinks, listen to some more classy music – not necessarily classical mind you, just a nice establishment, this is usually where bands play when people actually LISTEN to music instead of it being a backdrop to gyrating your hips towards the nearest eligible female human. Typically frequented by young-middle aged people, or maybe some mature twentieseses.
A pub – liken a pub to the stereotypical "Moe's Tavern" type place – usually plays sports on the telly, people typically drink beer and have a parma. Frequented most commonly by men who have just finished work and wanted to stop somewhere and have a quick beer before they go home and watch part of the match or something.
I guess in this situation Anwar should… Probably… Stick to… His hardware store story… Because Muslims can't drink (or they're really not supposed to) and idk how well the Mumwar would react to ANY of those choices. She would probably expect Anwar to have met Chris in a dingy pub because Chris… Day-Chris kinda looks like he might go there often.
Also food can be an indicator- pubs often serve hearty food, bars would serve fancy nibbles and clubs might have a burger van outside if you’re lucky.
Club – nightclub, sweat, loud music, you go to get wrecked.
Bar – you go to drink, but not party like you would in a club. I’d imagine more wines and spirits drunk there, but that could just be me. Makes me think of pretzels.
Wet pub – you go to drink, but more for a “session”, beers, and ciders mostly. Less chance of music, and not the pop type.
Dry pub – some people drinking round the bar (the but you get served at, not the establishment) but most of the trade comes from food, so similar to a restaurant. You’d probably either go there to eat, or if it was your “local” pub, or both.
I know Muslims who definitely go to pubs, maybe even bars, but I don’t know how strict they are (strict enough not to drink) or what their families would say to it. I know at least one is open enough to let his family know he goes there. So might be acceptable, but might not, depends on the family.
Clubs are where you go to dance, ostensibly, and get drunk and lairy until 2.30am after which you can start a fight with a copper in the street (actual). Bars tend to be for a transitory drinker, one who is just popping in to kill time until they do something else. Its high traffic, less in the way of seating, and tend to have a lot of glass and chrome in their design. So a bit chilly in terms of mood. A pub is where you linger. Generally has a tv on with a variety of sports, plenty of seating, most these days will do food, emphasis on beers and ciders unlike the other two which focus more on spirits (and for bars, wine), general decor is oak (or fake-oak) and probably brassware or rustic decor even if they are in a city centre. Even flat-roofed sceme pubs will try for an oak and brass theme. You’ll see activities sign up sheets in pubs, darts, five-a-side, dominoes (in older people’s pubs) and pub quizes (general and league).
I was raised in the US and now living in the UK, and I’ve found that “club” means pretty much the exact same thing on both shores, whereas all of the pubs I’ve been to here fall under the umbrella of what an American would call a bar. I’m deferring to the other commenters on the distinction between what Brits call a “bar” and a “pub”, since as far as I can tell this city has dozens of pubs and no bars in sight :P.
Oh, and FWIW, I have plenty of friends who will go to the pub to hang out with friends even if they don’t plan to drink, and then just order food/soda/water. I get the impression that this would be *slightly* more unusual in a bar since bars are less likely to serve actual food, but that’s just a hunch.
Pfft, just say “at a party JD dragged me to!” It’s the truth. Silly Anwar. :)
Although that might lead to more questions about details. Still, I suppose he could just say it was someone’s birthday or something innocuous like that.
When I was Anwar’s age, I never thought my super conservative, very Xian mother would understand, but it turned out, she was just happy I found people who made me happy and were good to me. Not to say War’s mom would get it, but there’s always the chance that with all the other surprises, this one would be less of a shock were she to find out.
“Somewhere JD dragged me in” doesn’t sound to bad, or? Of course, anybody else would present his lover to his family with his more conventionally (and very lovely) traits first and try to let the other things gradually sicker in, but no. Normal is overrated.
Luckily Anwars mother is used to shocks, now!
This is an issue with introducing many of my friends. How did we meet? “……Through another friend. A party. A…club. A group…thing…yeah.”
Go with the party excuse, preferably like this:
“JD Has a friend, who has a friend, who’s boyfriend’s brother’s X had a private house somewhere in X…… AND THEN THERE WAS A PARTY! So, JD dragged me there because she (/THEY) thought I wasn’t living enough. And then there was Chris. Yeah.”
Works for me all the time :D
What was the need for “she/(THEY)” in that sentence?
JD uses the plural they, so you should too.
Maybe Anwar’s mom still thinks JD is Jade…?
Using the singular “they” wouldn’t imply otherwise.
It was unnecessary misgendering.
Actually, I typed that because I wasn’t sure if Anwar’s mom was aware that JD identafies as a “they” rather than a “she”, or if Anwar even told her about that.
If Anwar’s mom is anything like MINE, then she’d think it’s weird to call JD a they rather than a she, assuming she doesn’t know (and it also sounds wierd from the perspective second-language english speakers, so there’s that reason too). I’m sorry if I have offended you Alex.
I’ve had similar conversations with my own mother, not so much over where I met any of my sweeties, but over our weekend plans. (The “kinky camping” event, for instance, is best summed up as just camping.)
*snicker*
Ohh, I’ve been there! Mostly when discussing how my weekend was when my parents call.
“How was your weekend? Did you do anything fun?”
..Eeeeehm, yes. It involved being half naked (or completely naked) at a party with 100+ people, most of which I’ve never met or talked to. In a brothel. Where people can come for kink-night and watch each other play or make new friends.
My response is usually: “Ehh, nothing special..”
Not that my parents would make a big deal out of it (they’re awesome), but there’s things I rather keep to myself.
I almost spilled my coffee from laughing at all of the comments XD.