Shades After 039
I got so hungry drawing this page, seriously.
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I’ve met little old ladies like this. They really are forces of nature. Even when they don’t in act the ‘threats’ they offer to bring down upon those that offend you, they really pump you up a bit with the fact that SOME little old lady out there somewhere wants something good to happen for you. Best kind of people to have dinner with really.
I… wouldn’t have called her a “little old lady”, personally? I mean, Anwar’s father’s d.o.b would have been about 1976 if my math is correct (which okay it probably isn’t). If they were about the same age she’d still be in her (late) 40s; which sounds very plausible with a son in his early/mid 20s. (I can’t remember if Anwar’s age is ever specified, but as a recent uni graduate I would guess 23-24.)
It varies from person to person, their mentality and lifestyle have a massive effect on how elderly an older person may seem, but yeah. I really wouldn’t call her a “little old lady”, or old at all.
Hmm, yeah I guess so. I guess I don’t have much experience for people who have that kind of reaction to thing outside of that? Well aside from my bad labeling, sentiments still the same. Sorry Anwar’s mum ;.;
Where are you getting the age of Anwar’s dad from?
Because I dunno, I’ve always thought Anwar’s mum is in her late fifties/early sixties from how she’s drawn, which also isn’t implausible. (It could also just be that I’m projecting my own parents’ age on to ‘War’s mum)
His gravestone has a date and age of death.
Umm Don’t think your math is correct. dob 1976 would be late 30’s.. Late 40’s would be 1966 ..
…WELP. That sounds like my mathsing. I’m now 15% more confused as to ages. I shall now hide from the numbers.
http://www.discordcomics.com/shades-of-a-40/
(Reference link showing the page with Anwar’s dad’s gravestone)
If he died at 35 years old in 2001, then Jason was right and he would have been born in 1966. Therefore he’d be in his late 40s if he were still alive (taking into account the fact that Shades of A and Shades After take place in 2013/2014). Momwar is probably around the same age too.
She looks much more like a 50-60 year old woman to me.
She isn’t quite the “little old lady” that Jojo is describing yet. YET.
Bahaha, everyone needs relatives like her tbqh. <3
Please translate for dumb continentals. What’s in the pan? Why is she sqishing something, and can you survive it? :-)
Based on the color and the way they’re both holding it in their off hands, I was guessing some sort of flatbread.
I have a roommate who taught us how to make jachnoon, which is a bread similar in construction to a croissant, but baked in a buttery pile in a Dutch oven for 26 hours on low heat. They come out layered and moist and chewy and you pull ’em apart and eat them with chopped boiled eggs, grated tomato, and chili paste. Gawd, now I’m drooling too. It’s entirely possible I’m mismisspelling jachnoon, too. Anyway, it’s what came to mind in this page, and made me pleasantly jealous of Anwar
I was able to find it by googling “jachnoon”, so not only was your spelling correct, I now need to figure out if I can make this!
Mums can be forces of nature. The only problem with that is they can be good forces or bad forces.
I have several friends whose religious parents are like “The only one allowed to make you feel uncomfortable about your sexuality is ME” and will absolutely choke a bitch if they catch anyone giving them a hard time, even if they themselves have issues or express disapproval. It’s oddly comforting.
More like hypocritical.
Hey. Stop that, that’s not fair. They grew up believing a certain way, and when their kid throws them for a loop and forces them to reconsider deeply held and long standing beliefs, it is uncomfortable and can take a long time to rearrange their thoughts in a way that allows them to accept the new reality. You can’t blame a parent for not immediately and completely understanding their kid when they were taught their entire lives there are only two sees and one sexual orientation. But it doesn’t matter if they don’t understand or even agree, the only thing that is important is that they continue to love and accept their child, and at least try to learn. When my best friend came out as trans, his father wasn’t buying it, he wouldn’t wrap his head around it, but when my friend expressed fear of being rejected by their synagogue, his father snapped into papa bear mode and told him anyone who made him feel unwelcome would answer to him. Because regardless of what his child was, NOBODY was going to disrespect him or invalidate his existence.
I myself got lucky. By the time I came out I had already worn out my very catholic dad with my constant rants on gay rights and sexuality so when I came out as ace and brought home my first girlfriend he was cool with it, but I have no doubt that if I came out in high school he would have been able to reconcile his beliefs with what I was telling him and he certainly wouldn’t let anyone else make me feel bad about it.
And guess what? Both of his parents are getting better. People can change but you have to be patient. Do some parents never get over it? Of course, and that is their stupid loss. But don’t write off everyone who doesn’t immediately get it as a a shitty person who can’t change or nobody will
As long as they’re accepting, that’s what counts. Not tolerating, accepting. But it sounds like they are.
My grandmother has some racist moments. She was raised that way. But she tries. When her gay interracial couple of neighbors moved in, she invited them over for dinner and got to know them. It’s about trying and small steps.
Would you prefer that she be consistent by preventing him from going to his place of worship?
She’s growing on me now :)
That’s fair, I got hungry reading it!
Go mama’war!
Despite her less-than-stellar initial reaction, she sounds like a good mom. This is how it works with my parents a lot. They might comment or give me their opinion, but at the end of the day, it’s my life and I’ve gotta make the mistakes I’m gonna make. I just need them there to support me. I like seeing his mom do this.
Why are people continuing to applaud this bigot!? Not only is she rejecting Chris and Anwar’s sexuality (thus, by extension, rejecting her son), she’s also forcing her religious beliefs on Anwar. Maybe Anwar doesn’t want to go to prayer! Maybe he doesn’t feel comfortable!
I also get the feeling that Momwar believes that her son will “see the error of his way” and break up with Chris and make grand-babies with some cute, fertile gal.
Momwar is not exhibiting supportive behavior. She’s being demanding and possessive. If she wanted to be supportive, she’d say that Anwar doesn’t have to go to prayer if he doesn’t want to, but if he chooses to go (and she encourages him to) then she’ll stick up for him come hell fire.
Another way to show support is to apologize to Chris and Anwar both for making a an ass of herself at Anwar’s graduation, and actually try to have a supportive relationship with Chris. THAT WOULD BE COOL AND SUPPORTIVE. Not this.
…
I wonder what Reverend Tumbles would say about all this.
The only one being a bigot here is you. You are either too blinded by your own hatred and anger at what I’m sure religious people have done to you or just dense.
You are deliberately missing the point where momwar had said she could’ve learned to deal with the same sex relationship, but Anwar is dating a man old enough to be his father, and THAT is what sets her off about Chris. And asexuality is still very misunderstood so I simply don’t blame her for not understanding what Anwar is trying to tell her. Mom’s want what makes their children happy, and as far as they know, finding someone to love is what happiness is, and they don’t understand how you can love someone without sex. My mom is the same way, and she’s no bigot, she just can’t wrap her brain around it.
And as for the prayer thing, Anwar is an observant Muslim, who suddenly stops going to prayers, all she did was ask why, and his answer wasn’t because he didn’t want to go, it was he was afraid he wouldn’t be allowed. And she said that he should go IF he wants, not that he has to go.
“The only one being a bigot here is you.”
You don’t know me. You don’t know anything about me.
“You are deliberately missing the point where momwar had said she could’ve learned to deal with the same sex relationship, but Anwar is dating a man old enough to be his father, and THAT is what sets her off about Chris.”
I still insist she wouldn’t have made the outburst she did at Anwar’s graduation if he had introduced everyone to his older girlfriend, not an older boyfriend. I have no proof of this, but this is what I suspect.
“Mom’s want what makes their children happy,”
I work in a crisis home for children. Your blanketed statement about all mothers disgusts me, because I’ve read enough horror stories about women who abuse their children to know that is a flat-out lie.
“And as for the prayer thing, Anwar is an observant Muslim…”
Is he?
Tell you what, RoL, maybe I have a bias against religious types, but if so, it’s a bias that’s well-deserved. And until Momwar apologizes to her son and her son’s boyfriend, I’ll continue to view her as an awful person.
I don’t need to “know you” to determine by your words that your are a judgemental dick. She is worried for her son, this kind of relationship is out of her realm of experience, and having already lost a husband that would make her extra protective of her remaining family. Should she have made a scene at graduation? Hell no, but Anwar understands she did it out of fear and worry for him, not because she’s a bitch. And he knows that no matter what he does, even if she disagrees with it, she will always love and support him, and that is all that matters.
And you don’t think I haven’t seen my fair share of abusive mothers? Yeah, I have actually, but that doesn’t mean I think all mothers are narcissistic abusive bitches. Seriously you’re flipping out on a fictional character giving a very normal (if rude and undesirable) reaction and you don’t think anything will be right until she agrees 100% with Anwar? That’s not how it works, and I would hope you know that if you work in a crisis center
If the only way you accept support is if someone agrees with you on everything 100% then you will find few allies.
“I don’t need to “know you” to determine by your words that your are a judgemental dick.”
Needless hurtful name-calling aside, yes, I openly admit to being judgmental. I judge people based on their actions. Momwar has demonstrated intolerance, emotional outbursts, and has been demanding of her son. I’m baffled by the audience condoning such actions just because she’s a mother.
“Should she have made a scene at graduation? Hell no, but Anwar understands she did it out of fear and worry…”
I’m glad you’re willing to admit her actions are inappropriate. But whatever were the setting events, no matter what the trigger, a maladaptive behavior is still a maladaptive behavior. Fear and worry don’t excuse her of being cruel. Would you excuse anyone of cruelty so long as they are afraid? In my experience, fear leads to hatred and indifference. Which is why it cannot be used as a an excuse to dismiss bigotry.
“And you don’t think I haven’t seen my fair share of abusive mothers? Yeah, I have actually, but that doesn’t mean I think all mothers are narcissistic abusive bitches.”
RoL, I commend you for acknowledging how abusive women can be. But nobody, especially not me, has made any blanketed statements about all women. Feel free to calmly read my comments again and you might realize that I haven’t used such wide declarations.
And as far as language goes, I will also object to the portrayal of my words that you’re attempting to represent. I haven’t used the word “bitches.” I don’t like that word at all. I certainly haven’t been using such verbage, so I’ll ask that you be more respectful and don’t represent my words like that.
And who’s flipping out? Yes, I’m immersed in the story, and since you seem to be in support of “very normal reactions,” my reaction to Momwar being cruel to Chris and Anwar seems quite normal. I’ll reiterate that I’m astounded why/how people are deliberately overlooking her poor behavior in the context of the story that is presented.
And finally, RoL, you don’t have an inkling of what my line of work entails. If you wish to know, I’d be happy to educate you.
It takes a while, she might not be the most supportive but it’s a lot to take in man, she’s not saying dude you need to go to church because it’s the religion we practice, she’s saying why are you staying away from services when I know you love your religion and are very devout. You’re right that It’s not good that she doesn’t support her son’s sexuality or that she thinks he’ll just change back but she has seen evidence in the past of him having relationships in the past and being sexually active. And of course she’s being possessive, even though Anwar has been going through a lot so has she. anwar being gone a lot is hard on her and he is her baby. She’s being supportive of him the best way she knows how, she’s not saying you can go if you want to because she knows how important his religion is to him and knows that if he abandoned it he wouldn’t be happy with his choices in the future. She’s not perfect but she’s trying buddy, cut her a little slack and give her time :3
…. says the person who thinks misandry is a real thing.
Also, ya gotta remember: people are projecting their own experiences with their family onto her. And you’re being a prick to people about how they interpret their own family members. Back off. You’re making this an unsafe space for folks, imo.
*GROSS LOUD SOBBING* MOMMY YESSSSS YOU ARE A GOOD MOMMY
What are they eating
Looks like naan *drools*