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Oh snap. :O
Yet again, feels. A lot of feels.
Feels of “Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no.”
My first thought is that she feels her safe space is being breached by someone who, inadvertently, is causing her issues? Does that seem right to people or am I just externalizing my own feelings?
Or does she feel Kelly isn’t supposed to be there? I don’t think she would, but we don’t know much of the earlier Ronnie’s personality yet.
Still. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no.
I think that might be part of it, but I also think it might also have something to do with Ronnie not really knowing Kelly all that well yet beyond her willingness to sleep with people, so maybe she thinks she’s there to pick people up so to speak.
Not that that’s correct or anything, Kelly doesn’t seem the sort, I’m just offering my own take on how I feel Veronica might be viewing the situation. :P
One too many “also”s used in that first sentence. @_@
Ya no, I totally get that you’re giving what you might think Ronnie’s motives are, not attempting to put truth behind the motives.
Oooh, are we going to find out that Kelly isn’t quite as happy-go-lucky as she seems? It seems rather tacky to go to a support-group like that to mack on people, so I’m assuming she has some sort of trauma in her past as well to talk about. Different people respond to trauma in different ways- Kelly could be out “conquering” the fear by being very outgoing, rather than curling up around it.
I’ve heard of this sort of thing. People who become extremely promiscuous after rape. I hope that isn’t what’s happening here. (mostly because my feels couldn’t take more rapey thing happening in one story). Though, getting past a similar trauma might bring them closer together, so… Silver lining? Maybe?
I’m sure you didn’t mean any of this but the way you’ve phrased your comment simultaneously pathologises rape victim’s sexualities and judges those who have a lot of casual sex (promiscuous is a value judgement term used to describe frequent sex with multiple partners as a negative thing). Many victims engage in a lot of casual sex before and after and this has nothing to do with the rape but their pre-existing preferences.
It could also be that she’s there because someone she knows was assaulted. A lot of those groups are open to survivors and friends.
Indeed, or even just as a non-affected helper, someone who’s there just to be there for people and provide some reassurance. Like, if you have a room full of people who, like Ronnie last page, think enjoying consentual sex now legitimises what happened before, then it just reaffirms each person’s view since others agree; having someone who is sex-poditive and confidential with consent issues to say “fuck that noise” and remind the others that they are allowed to do and enjoy what they like and it changes exactly diddley about how wrong what happened to them was… whilst it’s not like a magic switch to fix the damage, it’s healthy to be reminded that the evil whisper in your mind might not be correct.
I had a friend who used to volunteer at the rape crisis centre for purely that reason: she could be an ear to listen without judgement, and a ‘regular person’ who could, with no aim to psychologise or philosophise, be a touchstone for “this is healthy and right, your issues, while valid and genuine, and not law and you are allowed to try and move past them”.
Although most likely she is there because she needs to be. :(
This situation strikes me as ironic, and not in the nice, easy, non-feel way I prefer.
This is getting a little too real.
Er, she might get booted out for that… just sayin. It’s obvious why that reaction, but that is so not ok on what is supposed to be a very safe space.
I agree. It’s weird for Veronica to be in a place as a victim and then turn around and behave that way. I don’t think it’s uncommon for people from abusive homes to grow up and exhibit abusive behavior but generally, at least with the people I know (and my personal experience), when they come out of abusive relationships and are dealing with it they’re much more sensitive to even the smallest form of abuse/dominance. That being said, if I were Kelly I would peace out. Not even grant an explanation. Maybe that sounds mean, and I’m not saying that Veronica is a terrible person who doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship, but she should work out her issues so she’s not causing pain to other people in relationships.
Victims can lash out in pain and fear too. Indeed, they tend to do so more than most since they are often in pain and still fearfull.
I agree it’s wrong, but I think it’s important we don’t make victims into saints. They can be jerks too; it’s just more understandable for them sometimes.
There’s a difference between lashing out and acting in an abusive fashion and on the whole abuse victims are less likely to abuse people than non victims (cyclical abuse happens but is not actually the majority outcome and also occurs within the bounds of specific relationships with the victim-perpetrator understanding its inappropriate outside of them)
Kinda hoping there’ll be a Jaime cameo, may be just a quick shot in the background.
Pretty sure Jamie is still in school or college at this point.
Kelly is also like 4 years older than Jamie and the rest of the Khaos Krew, so he wouldn’t be there yet. :P
I’m pretty sure that calmcalamity meant that Jamie was at the support-meeting. Because rape. You know. Jamie. Past. Anyone??
Pretty sure that this is an event at their university or in their university town, which is presumably not in the same location as Khaos Kommunity Kollege.
Kelly also looks a little younger here than she does in Khaos, so this would presumably be happening either before or during the events in the Komix.
Btw I thought I added in something about her looking a little younger in addition to the being a few years older than Jamie etc, so I can see where they confusion about my post might have come from, my bad. :P
annnnd this is why I am terrified of starting my group sessions later this month @___@ Seeing someone I know and them not taking it well. Or seeing someone I know period.
*offers hug*
It’s a big (brave) step to make. Good luck and I’m sure everyone on this site is here for you if ever you need to talk about anything.
Just remember; if Jamie can do it, you can :)
Ronnie, wat r u doin, stahp
Hmmm… Trust issues. I would if they will discuss that in the group together—especially given Kelly seems to be there for a legit reason (versus stalking).
All things considered, that is some….aggressive body language for Ronnie. God forbid somebody walk out at the wrong time….
Er, i’m really hoping this all gets sorted out in the next page. I’m not really feeling too comfortable…
I see kelly looking lot like alex here, makes sense that they’re siblings, just it’s neat seeing it in drawings and such. I knew a brother and sister pair, where they looked so much alike, the older sister would actually look more like the younger brother. Just thought the drawing style was neat-o.
I can’t help but notice that this scene between Ronnie and Kelly looks a LOT like the one between Jamie and Murfs. The situation also seems sort of similar. Ronnie panicked and lashed out, and Kelly looks really confused. @.@ I like the similarity. :P
Um, Ronnie? You might want to reposition yourself. As in, stop pushing Kelly up against the wall. Please?
okay tab, two veery scary pages going on, one for each comic. Let’s hope this is all sorted out. Like, I hope there’s an explanation of why these two are in a relationship after this. Also let’s hope that JD answers to what the fuck they did and how horrible it was aha.
It seems to me that Ronnie has the impression that Kelly wouldn’t be here for legit reasons and isn’t taking this seriously. That’s the vibe I’m getting from Ronnie. I suppose we’ll find out why Kelly’s here.
(I’m kind of hoping she’s not there for rape/sexual assault counseling because I always hope someone hasn’t been a victim/survivor of rape or sexual assault.)