Sir, Butler and Boy ~ Rules and Regulations ~ Page 8
Now we get to the crux of this story- with two doms in charge who gets to decide when the sub has had enough?
I’m having a super hard time finding references for these pages as most pictures of ‘caning’ are a bit too extreme for my tastes. It’s a shame because the best art always comes with a good reference!
I agree images of caning put me off majorly. While I enjoy the control/domination aspects of BDSM, I do not find the pain appealing at all. SO this particular arc doesn’t grab me personally. However, I love the way you deal with the dynamics of it, and the switch from sub to Dom.
Here I keep thinking, if you train a dog not to bark, will it bark when it’s supposed to?
As always, it’s worth the read.
Exactly! Though this arc is going to be about more than just a caning- you’ll see what I mean over the next few updates.
Your arcs are always about more than what is immediately obvious, which is what I love about your comic :)
http://www.cane-iac.com/artofcaning.asp here is a lovely resource on caning. As someone who likes to play on both sides of the cane I will say this, many will find the cane and it’s results off putting, it is not for light masochists, some people even consider caning dancing on the line between RACK and SSC. But those of us who are into it generally regard the marks lovingly, the bruises are benefits not detriments etc.
Love the dynamic between these three, and it will be interesting to see how they work this out :)
You’re right- it’s a solid guide! Those diagrams tho XD
This bit was particularly interesting:
“The strokes that are known are Clap, Drum, Hit and hold, Hit and Lift, Hit and slide, Scoop and Tipping.”
The diagrams are pretty awful XD but I thought perhaps the descriptions of the movements and such could be of some use to you :)
I clicked on that link and I was not disappointed. Those diagrams are REALLY awful.
interesting data though :)
Always a very strange experience when you’ve got two Tops who aren’t used to working together in that way… I played a scene a while back where there was a blow that went beyond my limits, so I did my usual “k, stop” thing until I knew where I was and then was ready to resume play. My usual Dom was just about to start in again, when the other Top make an executive decision to halt and I was just lucid enough to be thinking exactly what James says there – not as a snarl, but as a genuine quandary. I am not always the best at knowing my own limits, so whose judgement do we trust?
Looking forward to see how this one plays out.
this is a very good point. The point is to trust the dom to know what’s best, so what if they aren’t sure? or don’t agree? Hmm.
Its always better to stop than to cross a line imo
But if the sub is one who likes to be pushed? And it’s with someone who they trust to push them? Especially in the context of the comic, John – while VERY responsible- has always been perhaps a little too reticent about causing pain. Certainly it’s one of the main causes of his guilt at confession. I know both James and Jefferson have as good as told him he could go further, at least once.
All the same, I don’t exactly trust James to be responsible here…
I love this comic so much and just reading it gave me the confidence to join my local fetish society. So thank you and please keeping uploading these amazing comics!!
It’s been a little odd, watching this develop. Like, I feel like according to kink community norms what the Right Answer is – it’s James, saying “he consented, let him consent.”
But I know when I’m in a space like that, desire to please a dom can quickly overrule better sense and soft limits. Especially if, like James has been in this scene, the dom seems… angry, or like they want a certain reaction. And that’s where I think it’s important to have someone who knows their sub enough to check in, even if you haven’t outright said anything.
This, this is what I’m thinking and written out nicely! Thank you!
My personal preference is that the Dom with more experience is the one who ultimately calls that particular shot if the sub is incapable, though in an ideal setting I’d imagine there are pros and cons to both. A more inexperienced Dom might be more sensitive to subtle tells, while they might also be assured of themselves enough that they might feel they don’t need to worry about it. A less experienced Dom might be more wary of going too far and therefore air on the side of caution, or they might not be able to read those tells and keep going.
My memory’s slightly rusty. It’s been a while since I’ve been exposed to the Scene firsthand, so I probably missed several nuances, there.
Sorry. The first description was supposed to refer to a more experienced Dom, not a less experienced one.
John is ‘The Dom’ in this situation, and it should be his word above all. He knows Jefferson to a greater extent, and has a better feel for how far things can go. And James is acting out of anger, which can be dangerous. If it were me, I’d stop the scene.
Yes! I think that’s the most important part here. It’s not because James is more trusting of Jefferson’s consent here that he wants to keep going, it’s because he’s angry and this scene is about his emotional needs. And that’s what I mean by “you can’t be a bratty dom.” When someone is trusting you with their body, your emotions need to be able to take a backseat to their safety sometimes.